Are you a "dog person" or a "cat person"?
You know, you have to choose, right? Or can you be both? Are there people who are neither?
Has the rivalry between dog people & cat people been around since the domestication of both animals?
I heard someone recently claiming that a cat is not considered a domestic animal. Another claimed that cats were domesticated farther back than ancient Egypt, and certainly farther back than dogs.
I read that under the law, at least in Pennsylvania, not only are dogs & cats considered "domestic animals", but also horses, cows, and the law seems to suggest that any wild animal held in captivity as a pet is considered a "domestic animal" under the law.
I recently heard a "dog person" claim it was perfectly legal to bash a cat's skull in, in broad daylight, on the streets of downtown Scranton. But not legal to do so to a dog. The person who claimed this, agreed that's the way it ought to be. I have found neither confirmation nor denial on the law regarding this claim. Do a lot of "dog people" feel this way?
I once heard a "cat person" say that it was perfectly legal to leave poisoned raw meat outside to poison dogs on the loose. The person who claimed this, believed that's the way it ought to be. I have found neither confirmation nor denial on the law regarding this claim. Do a lot of "cat people" feel this way?
Who ever heard of "a good watch cat"? How many young children have been mauled to death by "attack cats"?
Do more dogs piss on the rug than cats? Do more cats mess with neighbors' rubbish cans more than dogs? Are dogs higher maintanence than cats? Are cats more independent than dogs? Which is more lovable a pet? Which is more likely to misbehave and cause trouble?
Which makes a better pet - a dog or a cat?
Exactly what is the controversy?
Currently we just have a dog, but for years we had several of each. It's possible to be both.
Posted by Linkmeister | Tuesday 30 November 2004 12:52AM
I find that cat people tend to be the 'liberals' of the animal-loving world...more cat people show respect and tolerance for dogs than dog people show respect and tolerance for cats. You know? How many dog lovers do you hear say, "I hate cats!" and how many cat lovers do you hear say, "I hate dogs!" I think you will find the scale heavily tipped towards the former. And in conversations like this cat lovers usually focus on how much they love cats, whereas dog lovers will tend to focus on how much they hate cats-- not how much they love dogs. Not that they don't love dogs, mind you, but it's just something I've noticed, and of course a gross generalization.
Posted by Alison | Tuesday 30 November 2004 6:21PM
Hi Chloe! Thanks for stopping by my website today :)
I'd have to say I'm a "cat person" for sure. Dogs are ok, if they are other peoples. I recently gave in and got my husband and kids a puppy...I have to admit I so regret it. Not that he isn't a good dog, he is. Just not my cup of tea.
My 2 cats on the other hand....that's a different story. Love the cats!
Posted by Sheilah | Tuesday 30 November 2004 6:24PM
I lean more toward being a cat person. If I could only have one animal in the house, it would be a cat. But I still love dogs and we have two along with our two cats. I could never imagine hating any animal, really. I love 'em all.
Posted by Kate | Wednesday 01 December 2004 6:06PM
I've had both cats and dogs growing up... but out of the two I prefer the cat.
I think Allison was dead on target with her comments. I've often heard dog lovers say how much they hate cats and for the life of me, I can never figure out why. Maybe its because I generally like all animals, and though I would chose to have a cat over a dog, it would never make my feelings for them any less.
And really when you compare the two, I'm surprised more people don't have cats, they're so much more independent. I mean, you'll never see me walking one of my cats in the dead of winter at 2 a.m. :-)
Posted by Lee Ann | Wednesday 01 December 2004 7:10PM
Townsfolk Face Fight Over Cats and Dogs | Reuters.com "Animal lovers and lawmakers face a dog and cat fight over how many pets residents may own at the same time in the small Utah town of Provo, officials said on Wednesday. The current law allows residents to own up to two dogs or two cats at the same time but not a dog and cat together."
Posted by Chloe | Friday 03 December 2004 5:01AM
Hi,
Well I am a total DOG person, and I don't hate cats, but somehow I find them creepy and unfriendly, cats meowing in the night scare the hell out of me. Though I love lions,tigers and the other big cats, they aren't creepy at all! But then I would never hurt a cat even by mistake.
:)
Mohua
Posted by Mohua Ghosh | Monday 24 January 2005 6:47AM
hii
dog belongs to lower level of existence while cats belong to higher level .
dog is more loving then cat..
cat is very self centerd..
cats are like humans u can't trust them...
dog is unlike humans u can trust them nd love them they wont deceive u..and fail u..
cats have certain magical powers u wiont find with dogs.
dogs are more shrewd polished , refined and beats cats in evrything when they want to..
cats are certainly more versatile ..but they are more foussed on themself and so they can be called more inellissent ..
Posted by sunny | Tuesday 25 January 2005 6:20PM
i am SO a cat person!! in my opinnion yes dog lovers to tend to hate cats and go on and on about it and hurt cats and say horrid things about them but cat lovers tend not to say such horrid things about dogs! like how many cat lovers do u hear say "a good dog is a dead dog"? u don't realy do u? but how many dog lovers say stuff like that about cats..??? to many..!!like i realy must admit i am NOT a dog person in any possible way i'm not going to go into detaile about why i hate the vile stupid creatures...but i would never harm a dog and i would be sad if i saw a dead dog... well..if a dog ever killed 1 of my cats i would totally kill it!! in the worst possible way i could..but i would never hert 1 4 no reason...
Posted by Holly | Saturday 19 February 2005 6:59AM
dogs want to kill cats thats evil but cats dont give a flying shit.cats were considerd Gods in eygipt if some one killed a cat they would have the death penalty cats garded the houses of eygipt from the evil spirts. this might sound stupid about the evil spirits but eygpitens built pyeramids with out any technolgy smarter then us humans today dont you think they had the mesuerment of the pyimds exact.i honestly think i should listen to the smart ones on this subject.
Posted by Valerie | Sunday 06 March 2005 7:09PM
I have both. 2 cats and 2 dogs. I love all of them, but I think it depends on the animal's personality as to how attached you are to that animal. I adore my 14 year old Pug and the thought of having to put her down in the next year or so brings tears to my eyes (she is deaf and almost completely blind). I have a Boston Terrier puppy that I think is absolutely gross. He's sweet, but he eats his own feces, vomit, cat turds . . . it's just nasty. I'm not so attached to him, but I don't hate him. My boys absolutely love him. I have a huge Ragamuffin tortie cat that I adore also. She wants nothing but to be loved 24-7 and is always on me or on my bed wanting to nuzzle. She is the best. My other cat is a Heinz 57 and doesn't like to be held at all. She hisses and fights with the other animals, and is pretty much aloof. I care about her well being, but it wouldn't break my heart to find her another home where she didn't have any other animals around her. Again, I think it really comes down to each individual animal's personality as to how attached you are . . and not whether your a cat or dog person.
Posted by Chrissi | Wednesday 09 March 2005 1:45PM
I think it's absurd to seemingly imply that cats are loved more by their owners than dogs are. Quite the contrary. I wept as though my own brother died when we put our last dog to sleep, and even thinking about him makes me emotional. I believe dogs are warmer creatures, whose dependecy and fondness for their owners make them feel more wanted, and in turn creates a deeper connection. Some studies on the psychology of pets and pet owners suggest that dogs have a more profound and positive effect on one's self esteem. Not to mention that there have been more than triple reported instances of dogs saving lives (even if they weren't trained to) than cats, who are typically indifferent to their owner on a personal level. They can assimilate to anyone who cares for them, rather than associating one person with affection. Meaning, a cat usually views most humans equally, even strangers. Dog psychology connects them more intimately with individual people, making them more like a part of a family than a 'stranger who lives in your house.' I consider the connection between a person and their dog more profound than a person and their cat, if only by the fact that dogs seem more capable of a basic, primal love for their owners.
Posted by Mike | Friday 01 April 2005 3:51PM
Mike says: "a cat usually views most humans equally, even strangers"
I don't believe that's true at all. I was just saying here: theblackcloud » Blog Archive » Here kitty, kitty…
I said: "my cat only does that around people she likes… and my cat is kind of oddly & seemingly irrationally discriminatory"
My neighbor's cat wouldn't sprawl around on my porch the way Lee Ann's neighbor's cat does in her yard.
I think most of the dogs that 'save lives' might be large dogs... There's no such thing as a cat as big as a German Shepherd.
As for dogs having "a more profound and positive effect on one's self esteem"...
Yeah, I can see where a needy person with low self-esteem might benefit more from the obsequiousness of many breeds of dogs, or a narcissistic person might find dogs more adequately pandering sycophants. haha. But my cat sure likes me. She can be pestering at times, in fact. And just like a dog, she responds to training using treats. haha.
Posted by Chloe | Friday 01 April 2005 4:30PM
I am unsure that you took my commentary in the correct manner. It certainly wasn't meant to be surgically condescending, despite my bias. In most of my statements, it is important to note my tactful usage of words like, 'most' and 'usually'. Cats certainly do favor certain individuals over another, but the behavioral conditioning behind it is vastly different than a dog's. To clarify my hazy point when I said that cats usually treat equally, I mean in that humans occupy a lesser role in a cat's living routine than a dog's. A cat is indeed more independent, which translates to more aloof. Comparatively, I've always seen a dog happier and more zealous to greet and cuddle with its master than a cat.
As for the issue of 'self-esteem', perhaps I was being too naive in assuming that readers with a bias towards cats would not disect it in such a condescending light. The fact that dogs require and respond more regularly to the presence of their master creates a healthy, non-deprivatory relationship between the two. Hence "Man's best friend." And many a small dog has saved a life, try using google to read up on some of the occurances.
Posted by Mike | Friday 01 April 2005 8:15PM
I've always seen a dog happier and more zealous to greet and cuddle with its master than a cat.
Our cats always come to the door when we come home from lunch and work, now maybe they're not the norm when it comes to cats, but I have to say after a long day its great to be greated by the little furries.
I've got a few cuddle pictures to prove otherwise... ;-)
Lee Ann: "Cuddle 3" is quite possibly my favourite cat picture ever!!!! The way that cat's laying there is so adorably funny!!! And that you were able to catch it with the camera...
Mike: I didn't accuse you of anything, just in case you were wondering. I was stating that I disagreed with you on some points as far as differences & degrees of differences, that's all.
And I didn't disagree that there's more stories in the news about dogs doing "good deeds" for people. I merely said I bet it's usually a larger dog, and there's no such thing as a large cat that would be able to do a lot of the things big dogs can do.
I should probably state at this point that I like dogs & cats equally. I truly have no bias at all, as far as which is the better animal or pet. I believe that neither is any better than the other. And I think preference is completely a matter of taste, personality, temperament, needs, lifestyle, and abililities. I don't think there's anything wrong with that at all. People should choose the pet that suits them. And low self-esteem & narcissistic personality disorder are real emotional disorders... Having a friend who is a psychiatrist, I have come to firmly believe that mental illness is just that, illness. And I think if a one pet or the other, is more psychologically useful for a person, then I think it's great that the person can get what they need from having a pet. I once heard a self-described "love addict" who'd been in various bad relationships with abusive men say that she found the 'unconditional love' of pets (not just one) to be wonderful in helping her to be less quick to take up with a slick talker guy. And I heard of a man who said something along the same lines about his pet. I think that's great for them.
Though I think most people probably choose a pet based on their general lifestyle more than a psychological need.
I think my equal love of both species is demonstrated by the fact that, though I have a cat but not a dog, I have taken at least 10 times as many photos of dogs than cats, and indeed have many more photos of dogs posted on-line. Watermelon Punch - Photo Album - Cats Watermelon Punch - Photo Album - Dogs
Indeed, I enjoy taking photos of dogs more than cats. (And mind you, taking pictures is what I've been doing for a living.) I'm not very good at taking photos of cats, and to be honest, I don't enjoy taking photos of cats, not even my own cat, quite as much as dogs. Yet, for various reasons, I do not have a dog myself.
I only have one cat (and usually a fish as well). During my childhood I grew up with dogs (my family had 6 dogs at one time & no cats). During my teen years there were 2 cats & a dog in the house. I used to have 2 cats at one time, but Fief is 'no longer with us', sadly.
But years ago I emphatically believed I would never have an interest in having a cat. I had a parrot for 13 years of my life. Nowadays I also have a fish usually as well.
Posted by Chloe | Saturday 02 April 2005 12:44AM
I have both, but I find dogs to be exhausting to take care of, and it doesn't matter how much I bathe them and give them milk bones, they smell bad. But then again, I am overly sensitive to smells. I do love my dogs, and I am going to be devastated when I have to put our 14 year old down. She is not doing well at all these days.
I absolutely adore my cat. But then again, she is a full breed cat (Ragamuffin), and this breed is known for being incredibly affectionate. She greets us at the door and constantly wants to be around us. I have had both kinds of cats. . . full breed and Heinz 57. And I will have to say, depending on the specific breed of cat, they are way more affectionate than the Heinz 57s I've had. The mixed cats seem to be very aloof and don't want to cuddle. Some have been downright wild at times. So I have to say that I will probably stick with the full breed cats from now on.
Posted by Chrissi | Monday 02 May 2005 2:01PM
I agree about the dogs tending to be more smelly and needing baths & such. Someone tried to tell me recently that dogs were cleaner than cats, and I found that outrageous. My cat doesn't go outside so she doesn't track in dirt from outside, and she never smells or needs a bath.
That said, my sister Joanie's dog Chili only ever smells when she rubs her ears in earthworms... She never gets that "wet dog" smell though, and doesn't seem to need a bath very often.
But I have to completely disagree about Ragamuffin cats being incredibly affectionate. My sister Marie's Ragamuffin cat, The Muff Puff, is not at all friendly. I've spent 2 weeks of my life in residence with this cat and never once was able to touch the cat. She ran from me, wouldn't eat if I was within 20 feet of the food dish, and would stare at me from afar in a rather disturbing way. And as far as I can tell, she's not all that much more friendly to my sister or my brother-in-law Preston who feeds her! Whereas Marie & Preston's garden variety Calico, Patches, that apparently may have been found as a stray kitten, is very friendly & warm. Even their Hootchie cat is more affectionate than The Puff. Hootchie & Muff Puff spent most of their time hiding during my visits, whereas Patches is affectionate to people.
My cat Fief was incredibly affectionate and friendly - to everyone. My cat Nikita is very very affectionate to me, and friendly to most visitors, though she's not affectionate to strangers, and will hide from men who raise their voices.
And my friend Heather's tabby Tweety is friendly, and her tabby Tigger is incredibly affectionate - assertively affectionate, in fact.
My friend Gene's cat was fairly friendly to me.
A stray kitten was friendly to me.
The Visitor Cat that comes on my porch, possibly a stray, is very very very friendly and affectionate.
My friend Kristen's cat Buddy is very friendly and affectionate.
But yet my friend Lisa's pure breed Absynian cats, like Robbie are not unfriendly exactly, but they're actually kind of aloof and wild.
And my mother's pure breed Siamese, Julius, has never been friendly to me, even when I lived with him when he was a kitten! He never liked to be held, and would not sit on my lap. (Though she says now that his buddy Romeo is gone, he's gotten much more affectionate.)
So I don't know, from my experience, I can't buy the 'pure breeds are friendlier than mutts' theory.
Posted by Chloe | Tuesday 03 May 2005 4:14AM
Comment Deleted by Chloe due to vulger content, abusive statements, logical fallacies. Not to mention poor grammar.
I didn't delete it altogether to point out how irrational, emotionally upset, & verbally abusive people can get about the topic.
Robert Moore claimed his yellow lab was superb watch dog (apparently better than burglary systems -which can't be bribed with steak, interestingly enough) - well that may be for him and that's his business. But it's not exactly a great argument to support violence against cats.
He seemed to be claiming that dogs never urinate or deposit poops inside homes or ever destroy homes, but apparently he thinks cats always do.
He also seemed to be claiming that cats have diarhea as a general rule, and that generally cat owners think feces on the wall is funny, and enjoy living in filth.
He also claimed that cats were more of a detriment to a home "than a crystal meth lab".
And then he stated: "cats are food". (Not sure which country this dude is from. Yuck.)
If Moore would like to resubmit his comments in an acceptable form, he's welcome to, but something tells me there are plenty of people who are incapable of being civil when it comes to this topic.
Posted by Robert Moore | Friday 20 May 2005 9:54AM
I love dogs the most. What's not to love? They are very human, highly intelligent, and just plain cute^^ I swear my puppy dog understands everything I tell her. She seems as smart as a kid. I don't know how anyone can hate dogs. Dogs are more loving than cats and enjoy companionship, unlike most cats I've met. I totally DISAGREE with people who say dog people focus on how they hate cats, while cat people just say how them love cats. I've seen tons of cat people say how they hate dogs, how stupid they think dogs are, and a load of other anti-dog stuff. I think dog people love their dogs and don't really care about cat-bashing, but a lot of cat people on the internet go on about how they think dogs are inferior.
Posted by Inu-chan | Thursday 26 May 2005 7:40PM
i have two dogs, two male dobermans n they r soooo luvly, i dont like cats but i dont hate them and i would never hurt one, my husband 2 b is german so he really is the biggest dog lover ever, he hates cats, but wouldnt hurt one, so we are not cat people, we love dogs and both of us hav only ever had dogs, the thing with cats is that they r unfriendly ungrateful and only want u 4 food then they leave u a dog is ure friend n is 4 evr loyal 2 its master! aww bless. our dogs, himmler and rommel r the most luvly animals ever, a great pair! my boyfriends parents liv in germany and they hav three german shepherds, adolf, kaiser and lars, they 2 are awsome! what im gonna say next sounds petty awful but there really is no other way of puttin it a cat is a complete waste of time and money!! xoxoxox
Posted by Lauren | Wednesday 27 July 2005 3:02PM
hi again its lauren, getting bored, heinrich(boyfriend) isnt home from work yet, hes a doctor n on a late shift so i hav just took the dogs 4 a walk in the woods in nottinghamshire, where i liv didnt catch site of robin hood and his merry men so better luck next time!!!! hehe xoxox my cousins cat george is probably the most awful thing i hav evr seen, a persian, ewwww it was meowing n i was like, himmler rommel please bark, its classier!!!! he loves cats n i find that impossible!!! as Heinrich says HOLOCAUST THE CATS!!! in his cute german accent!!! but he really is an extremist, im not, i just wud never evr hav 1 in my house or n e where near me!!!! aufweidersehn xoxoxox lauren :)
Posted by lauren | Wednesday 27 July 2005 3:15PM
I'm a dog person. I don't hate cats, but there just rude! I can't stand cats. I have two dogs, and two cats. Dogs are actually lovable. cats rub agianst you and want more atention, but dogs need more atention.
Posted by James | Sunday 12 February 2006 11:48PM
i think that dogs are my thing becaouse there playful fun and i love dogs and on the other hand earth worms and cats can be good too!and thats what i think about cats vs dogs vs earthworms!and if you dont like my awnser to badd lol!
Posted by darci | Monday 26 March 2007 1:41PM
Some people like earthworms. Surely that's a preference that's to each their own as well. Myself, I see more of a connection between wet dogs and earthworms. Smelly & damp. Rarely have I ever known a cat to be smelly & damp. hah!
Posted by Chloe | Tuesday 01 May 2007 12:41AM
Dogs are often called inferior by cat people! As for cat people saying that the cats were worshiped in the past... Eygptian were incestuous! You're going to rely on that argument? They practiced human sacrifices! Yeah cats reined in those times.
Posted by DogsRule | Wednesday 23 April 2008 2:29AM
Though Ancient Egyptian religion might mention incest in stories...
I believe there are references to incestuous stories even in the Bible, and in many cultures in ancient history.
And, after all, according to the Bible, if taken literally, Adam & Eve's kids would've certainly have had to committed incest, or the human race wouldn't be here today! So if literal-believing Christians of today believe they have a right to live, or a place in heaven, they must, logically, condone that incest!
The fact is, scholars believe that incest was frowned upon by the general public in ancient Egypt, and was only used by the royal families to guard against the throne being taken over by outsiders. I believe this is a practice that many monarchies have engaged in, and to some extent, it still happens in monarchies in the modern world, even where the monarchy has little if any power.
The fact that Prince William of Wales is slated to inherit the thrones of 15 different commonwealths -- that one man would even have more than 15 different titles, is proof, without even looking at a genealogy chart, that there had to be family marrying relatives throughout the family history to funnel the thrones that way!
And, indeed, incest is still occurring as I write this today, even in the United States of America. Legal, illegal, regardless of how repugnant I might find it - it's happening - brothers have sex with sisters, fathers rape daughters, and cousins marry each other, etc. It happens. But I wouldn't consider myself to live in a culture that celebrates it.
There's no reason to believe that ancient Egyptians embraced, promoted, condoned, nor practiced incest any more than any other culture in any other time period.
Perhaps some day, a few thousand years from now, someone will look at the news reports about child molesters and sex offenders, and conclude that our culture in North America today is a culture of child abuse and rampant sexual violence. They might mistake a police sex offenders list for some kind of commendation. Someone in the future might, from the sex scandal tales, jump to the conclusion that the Catholic Church actually religiously supported pedophilia in this time period. But then some knowledgeable scholar will hopefully point out that in the 2008, Pope Benedict said he was "deeply ashamed" by the rogue priests who broke vows, broke the public trust, and committed criminal acts in the U.S. - they will point out that the Church did not say it was okay for priests to sexually molest children.
So I'm afraid any attacks on the ancient Egyptians, to argue against the merit of domesticated cats, would seem to me to be an employment of a plethora of logical fallacies, including being... genetic fallacy, red herring, appeal to ridicule, and in a certain light, even ad hominem.
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